"it is best left In the past as its views are too false for the future."
"i dislike all the classics. that goes for aristotle."
"This is kind of like if you need to brush up on your Calculus and you start by going all the way back to multipication tables."
"If I'd lived with Plato for a solid 20 years, would (even) I have written something better than the Metaphysics? I believe so, yes."
"Maybe Aristotle wasn't interested in philosophy
I am not particularly fond of this book. If undergraduate college courses are meant to provide students with general outlook on likely events, and graduate schools at major universities are intended to select those students who want to qualify for cutting edge work in a highly specialized professional discipline, the works of Aristotle seem to be the high point of a Greek attempt to create an upper level above anything that had previously been considered possible. Alexander the Great, as a student of Aristotle, might be faulted for aspiring to far more than what could be useful, just as Heidegger seemed to be pushing for a German spirit that was sure to damn the rest of the world to misery when he assumed a place in the leadership of a German university backing Hitler and the Nazi party.
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It is far more ancient than modern. It is not clear how infinite his 'triangle containing two right angles' (p. 112) is supposed to be. Even his attempts to tiptoe around the major stereotypes of ancient bookworms seem limp. 'For instance, it is neither always nor for the most part that someone pale has a refined education, but since it sometimes happens, it will be incidental (or if not, everything would be by necessity).' (p. 113).
The Index only mentions three pages in Aristotle's text for Socrates, though Aristotle often uses his name as an example ... Two generations of seeking lessons from Socrates, ignoring whatever meaning the hemlock had, took place before we find Aristotle finally admitting 'For there are two things one might justly credit Socrates with, arguments by example and universal definition,' (p. 260). A real philosopher ought to do better than that."
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Monday, April 16, 2012
Aristotle - Physics
"dated"
"Aristotle was an Idiot. Really. Just a complete fuck-tard. His ideas are something I generally view as a plague that very actively inhibit understanding."
"Have you even listened to Aristlotle's rantings?Aristotle was an idiot."
"absolutely unquestionably wrong"
"virtually no relevance to contemporary science. Galileo et alia shattered the Aristotelean hegemony centuries ago."
"ARISTOTLE WAS AN IDIOT
Aristotelian logic is destroying our world. The world must stop adhering to this old style of logic and begin viewing all things as One if the human race is to survive for any decent length of time.
The way to sidestep around this trap of Aristotle is to see all things as One, with no particular leanings to either end of the pole. Be in the middle. Walk the middle path between the extremes. Observe with a scientific mind all that occurs before you in life."
YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE ARISTOTLE DIDN'T DO, AND DIDN'T WRITE EXTENSIVELY ABOUT
"Aristotle was an idiot who never thought to do even the most basic of science experiments, therefore to me he is completely irrelevant."
"Mmm..I believe Aristotle was an idiot (although I'm forced to recognize his small contributions to some areas in science and philosophy)."
"obviously Aristotle was an idiot. Happiness comes from loving and following Jesus Christ. When we look to others, others will always disappoint. When we look within, we will also find faults. But when we look to HIM, we can find love and purpose."
"I'm fairly convinced that Aristotle was an idiot and has done more to slow the technological advancement of mankind more than just about any single individual in the history of man kind."
"Forget Plato. Forget Aristotle. What about that philosopher know as 'you'?"
"Aristotle was an Idiot. Really. Just a complete fuck-tard. His ideas are something I generally view as a plague that very actively inhibit understanding."
"Have you even listened to Aristlotle's rantings?Aristotle was an idiot."
"absolutely unquestionably wrong"
"virtually no relevance to contemporary science. Galileo et alia shattered the Aristotelean hegemony centuries ago."
"ARISTOTLE WAS AN IDIOT
Aristotelian logic is destroying our world. The world must stop adhering to this old style of logic and begin viewing all things as One if the human race is to survive for any decent length of time.
The way to sidestep around this trap of Aristotle is to see all things as One, with no particular leanings to either end of the pole. Be in the middle. Walk the middle path between the extremes. Observe with a scientific mind all that occurs before you in life."
YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE ARISTOTLE DIDN'T DO, AND DIDN'T WRITE EXTENSIVELY ABOUT
"Aristotle was an idiot who never thought to do even the most basic of science experiments, therefore to me he is completely irrelevant."
"Mmm..I believe Aristotle was an idiot (although I'm forced to recognize his small contributions to some areas in science and philosophy)."
"obviously Aristotle was an idiot. Happiness comes from loving and following Jesus Christ. When we look to others, others will always disappoint. When we look within, we will also find faults. But when we look to HIM, we can find love and purpose."
"I'm fairly convinced that Aristotle was an idiot and has done more to slow the technological advancement of mankind more than just about any single individual in the history of man kind."
"Forget Plato. Forget Aristotle. What about that philosopher know as 'you'?"
Monday, April 25, 2011
Aristotle - Poetics
"He is a lot like his teacher Plato. Thus I hate them both."
"Well, I tell you what.
Did you ever see 'Dead Poet's Society'? You know that scene where it's the first day of school and Robin Williams has them read that essay out loud, with all sorts of formulae and things for analyzing poetry - where Robin Williams graphs a formula on the board: PxI=G ?
Remember that?
That's the feeling I got with this. It seems to miss the forest for the trees.
OK, it's an analysis of drama and epic poetry. But to what end?"
"Is it totally sacreligious for me to say that I think Aristotle is kinda wack?
...
It just seems so antiquated to me, and though I know I should honor my fathers and appreciate the history in this, it kills me that I have to read Aristotle's noodlings about tragedy vs. epic poetry for a playwriting class.
...
The real tragedy (ho ho ho) here was that I just don't give a shit about how an ancient Greek dude thought plays should be structured"
"It wasn't a bad book; in fact, I understood most of it. However, I didn't feel like I was left with a greater sense of wisdom."
"This doesn't strike me as a vital text in theory. It would seem to be of better use to those studying the Classics and simply as background than to any other particular purpose. I know there's an assumption among some folk that text anywhere near as dated as this could be of practical use in this day and age, but there's plenty of proof to the contrary."
"philosophy likes to go in circles. in circles philosophy likes to go. the philosophy of poetry is looked at closely. poetry and the philosophy behind it is analyzed on it's application to life. . . and on and on and on and on I can go."
"I'm glad I read it since now I'm more impressive to elitists, Aristotle wasn't exactly engaging because it was so decontextualized. I was just plopped down in this discussion and had no idea what he was responding to, besides Oedipus and the Odyssey and Iliad because I kind of know those texts, because Aristotle just assumes you're up on all the plays he's quoting."
"I loved how Aristotle continually referenced Greek poets who wrote incorrectly. Maybe they wrote correctly and he was wrong....? After all, they were in the majority and we have to be democratic about truth! :P"
"Well, I tell you what.
Did you ever see 'Dead Poet's Society'? You know that scene where it's the first day of school and Robin Williams has them read that essay out loud, with all sorts of formulae and things for analyzing poetry - where Robin Williams graphs a formula on the board: PxI=G ?
Remember that?
That's the feeling I got with this. It seems to miss the forest for the trees.
OK, it's an analysis of drama and epic poetry. But to what end?"
"Is it totally sacreligious for me to say that I think Aristotle is kinda wack?
...
It just seems so antiquated to me, and though I know I should honor my fathers and appreciate the history in this, it kills me that I have to read Aristotle's noodlings about tragedy vs. epic poetry for a playwriting class.
...
The real tragedy (ho ho ho) here was that I just don't give a shit about how an ancient Greek dude thought plays should be structured"
"It wasn't a bad book; in fact, I understood most of it. However, I didn't feel like I was left with a greater sense of wisdom."
"This doesn't strike me as a vital text in theory. It would seem to be of better use to those studying the Classics and simply as background than to any other particular purpose. I know there's an assumption among some folk that text anywhere near as dated as this could be of practical use in this day and age, but there's plenty of proof to the contrary."
"philosophy likes to go in circles. in circles philosophy likes to go. the philosophy of poetry is looked at closely. poetry and the philosophy behind it is analyzed on it's application to life. . . and on and on and on and on I can go."
"I'm glad I read it since now I'm more impressive to elitists, Aristotle wasn't exactly engaging because it was so decontextualized. I was just plopped down in this discussion and had no idea what he was responding to, besides Oedipus and the Odyssey and Iliad because I kind of know those texts, because Aristotle just assumes you're up on all the plays he's quoting."
"I loved how Aristotle continually referenced Greek poets who wrote incorrectly. Maybe they wrote correctly and he was wrong....? After all, they were in the majority and we have to be democratic about truth! :P"
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